Now granted I don’t like the current bill, but if you removed 400 billion in pork yes favors, and over 200 includeds republican favors whom will never vote for it even if it was free. That would bring the bill to 300 billion yes less than the cost of pork. 9 out of 10 Republican recommendations are in the bill. It DOES NOT cover abortion or illegals I don’t know where you people keep getting this info. Look at the bill you can even search what you want to read its all there. I do not like mandate, but alot of Republicans were for mandates before they were against it. You have to pay for the insurance through an insurance company it’s not free so the people still have the power over it. Those who are poor will get some subsidies to help pay for it which we pay for all of them in full now. If you dont want it dont get it keep your insurance you have. So what is the problem??? seriously is it that you are so self-absorbed that you can think of no one but your self im confused. I lost my insurance with my job. I have a pre-existing condition I am uninsurable if I go into a state pool it is 500 a month I cant afford that. I just fell on the ice and broke my hand and had to go to the ER the doc bill was 425 dollars thats just his bill they told me it was ok, but to follow up with my doc that was another 200 dollars for two visits because my doc x-rayed it and it was broke. So now im stuck with a bill of misdiagnosis..If we dont cut costs we will never fix health care, but I don’t think anyone should be denied good care ANYONE>
Doctors have to deal with medicare all the time that is govt insurance which everyone is required to have at 65…IT IS GOVT INSURANCE…
So the cost is socialist thats your answer now. what about bushes prescription drug plan that was never paid for, or hmmm I dont know Iraq, Afghanistan those were both not paid for so that is not gong to answer it either.

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If Bush were a true conservative he would never allow the government to run huge budget deficits year after year like he has done. He would have never taken us into a war in Iraq preemptively without our allies sharing the cost, especially when there was in fact, no immediate threat to the US. Its funny how quickly the war in Iraq started off as a search for WMD but turned into a mission the free the Iraqi people. If Bush was a true conservative, he would not be advocating and passing legislation that increases the size and power of the federal government. He would not be sticking the states with large un-funded mandates. And he would not be trying to create a huge new federal bureaucracy who’s unconstitutional goal is to fund religious organizations that offer social services in place of social programs that his budgets have cut. And yet, SO many conservatives worship this man. Does partisanism really make people this blind? Liberals are just as bad, but one question at a time.
Coach – YOU need the facts. Bush raised the deficit by 5 trillion dollars. While naturally there is a need to higher expenditure, this level of expenditure is NOT justified. It’s not just the war and terrorism that is the problem, Bush’s administration is a fiscal disaster.

I know he more or less is a social conservative, but I’m not 100% sold. I feel like he doesn’t respect the constitution like a conservative should. And really, if you are just a social conservative, then to be an effective president, you need to actually DO something. All he has done is successfully delay the granting of gay marriage. THATS IT. Is this a reason to celebrate him?

Also, since he has raised the deficit by 5 trillion dollars, he is an economic failure. You can point to an occasional economic success here and there, but he HAS failed miserably econmocially.

Oh well. Hopefully republicans pick someone better next time. Its almost over.
One more thing guys, thanks to most of you for providing BALANCED answers. It’s not too often I get reasonable, intelligent, balanced opinions in the politcs section on here.

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